THE CIA, THE TRAVEL AGENTS AND TORTURE TOURISM

bvongrabe asked:


Nothing has done more damage to the American reputation abroad than the torture tourism – the outsourcing for torture of humans alleged to have been involved in terror. For years George W. Bush and his operatives have denied that they use torture. What about former CIA chief Tenet? No torture! Here is Senator Whitehouse of Rhode Island, asking Attorney General Mukasey whether is unconstitutional. Answer: if it amounts to torture it is unconstitutional. What about former CIA Chief Hayden? Torture is not of interest to the CIA. Well, that is maybe not as strange as it sounds. They do not do that themselves as a once said: We dont kick the bleep out of them, we send them to other countries so they kick the bleep out of them. But enough of the commercials, lets do a reality show: You see, we found that the CIA has set up a veritable , AIR CIA, with routes all across the globe. — Actually, we have the story of one of the torture tourists, Khalid El-Masri who was born in Kuwait in 1963 to Lebanese parents but became a nationalized German. On December 31, 2003 he went on vacation to Macedonia but was detained by border agents because his name el-Masri was similar to al-Masri, wanted by the CIA. He was turned over to the CIA who flew him on one of their routes to Afghanistan. Where he was tortured, beaten and sodomized. Despite the fact that the CIA soon figured out that they had the wrong man It took TWO, not one ORDER of

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20 Comments so far

  1. bvongrabe on August 27th, 2010

    I am indeed :)

  2. LisaAv0n on August 27th, 2010

    ok wait…
    ur trying to tell me that ur the guy in the vid? :D

    hmmmmmmmm? ;)

  3. bvongrabe on August 30th, 2010

    say again ?

  4. bvongrabe on August 31st, 2010

    Oh, and el-Masri lost EVERYTHING. Since no remedy is available for ANY vistim befire U.S. Courts I filed a criminal complaint against Bush, Cheney et al before the International Criminal Court in the Hague which accepted my complaint and gave the evidence to Spanish Investigative Judge Garcon who promptly added Cheney as defendant. Sorry, had to do that since you don’t do ANYthing. Torturing foreigners is NOT a U.S. matter.

  5. stanley03061973 on September 1st, 2010

    look at might sight im being tortured

  6. bvongrabe on September 2nd, 2010

    For his loss state secrets.

  7. LisaAv0n on September 4th, 2010

    whose this herr gerrman guy?
    he sounds like colonel klink? ;)
    why is a foreigner commenting on US matters?

  8. TheloanWolf1 on September 7th, 2010

    Bottom line , They always have A answer for everything !

  9. bvongrabe on September 11th, 2010

    Becaus we don’t torture people. Those who do should be in jail.
    By the way, the International Criminal Court agreed, accepted my complaint, has forwarded the evidence to the Spanish Judge who investigated torture, who also agreed with me, and added **** Cheney to the list of defendants.
    You may have no problem with torture, I – and many here – have a helluva problem with it.

  10. Abuzete on September 13th, 2010

    My husband is spetsnaz. Yes, I’ve seen them.

    Nope never been locked up- I was shoved under a stairwell and beat by my own officers for NOT GOING ALONG WITH THE BUSHEVIK’s COMPLICIT WAR.

    Why question things you know nothing of?

  11. Auggie56 on September 15th, 2010

    Ever see photos of the purges in Russia ?
    Sounds like you were maybe locked up at one time. Why mead-ed out the alledged punishment ?

  12. Abuzete on September 15th, 2010

    Then you have been misinformed. If the military can throw their own people under a stairwell, hit, kick and sleep deprive them (myself)

    I know what they did with criminals. I’ve seen photo’s you won’t find everywhere.

  13. Auggie56 on September 17th, 2010

    Sure about that ? Maybe your laboring under your own set of values. Maybe you have no experience on the subject. Maybe, no you did stoop to childish name calling. Go back to writing on bathroom walls little one.

  14. Numinous123 on September 20th, 2010

    “If it saves lives, then by god turn the ***** on them.”

    It didn’t save lives. If anything it created more people who hated America.

    Also, it’s been proven… PROVEN… that many of the people incarcerated gave false information because… get this… they were tortured.

    The Bush plan of torturing people put American’s at greater risk. It didn’t lessen it.

    Auggie…. I’m guessing you’re a sociopath.

  15. Numinous123 on September 22nd, 2010

    For water boarding also people incarcerated were executed for water boarding also people were executed for water boarding does no harm during wwii people were innocent.
    For water boarding also people have died under questioning the point if water boarding does no harm during wwii people incarcerated were innocent.

  16. Auggie56 on September 25th, 2010

    My other point if water boarding does no harm the use meaningless laws while the point is that they out right executed danial pearl on camera its war and we can to win not use it.

  17. blupheonix44 on September 26th, 2010

    Didn’t save his life. (Pearls)

    Did it save any POW’s lives?

  18. Auggie56 on September 28th, 2010

    I have read the opposite in other investigations. Who really knows what goes on in locked rooms. Ask Danial Pearl if he agrees with the ban on water boarding.

  19. bvongrabe on October 2nd, 2010

    The reality is that those who were close to the Sheikh Mohamed investigation say that they did not get one single usable lead from him. Moreover, according to reports we released nearly 100 Guantanamo detainees without charging them, so obviously the torture didn’t work. Finally, al-Qhatani will not be charged because his “confession” was obtained by torture. Trust me, there are other means to get the information without waterboarding.

  20. Auggie56 on October 5th, 2010

    If it saves lives, then by god turn the ***** on them.

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